I chose my job, and now Ive been given this opportunity. Selina, bitter with Doyle after the debacle in Season 5, begins grooming Jonah to run under the condition that he appoints her Secretary of State, and in return, shell finance his campaign. I like to think shes haunted because you two are a favorite TV couple in a twisted way. it's been getting some buzz around the web. In the United States, Peter J. McGuire, a union leader who had founded the United Brotherhood of Carpenters in 1881, is generally given credit for the idea of Labor Day. So I think the level of depravity that happened here, I wasnt necessarily surprised. Given that Mike never winds up giving that heartfelt eulogy for Selina, could you finish the job right now?I would personally eulogize her as the most wonderfully complicated character I ever got to write. And I love how Veep showed that full-circle moment with her. Did she ever find out that he was alive, and did he close out any shady deals at her funeral?Id like to think at some point, they had contact, or she probably had to give him some more money at some point. Sie knnen Ihre Einstellungen jederzeit ndern. It was not lasting remorse. They were putting those two things together and thinking that education is bad, and Im sorry, I think thats wrong. On a personal note, Mandel says the Rizzoli & Isles writers were wonderful neighbors. Hes definitely not meant for prison. I can't imagine the amount of work that that woman had done to her face. That could be enjoyable. I think the world has gotten very horrible. ", Taking the stage and securing her second shot at historyhistory that she felt was hers to claimSelina addressed the crowd. Hed love to be a food critic. Louis-Dreyfus uses the words "pretty intense" to describe that moment. It was really like, 'All right, this is it.'". How did you arrive at that outcome? Will looks like he has PTSD sometimes. Louis-Dreyfus recalls that she had to bridle her own feelings to power through this poignant moment. And what that says to me is, again, another picture of her weakness and her cowardice. You mentioned that Trump was one of several reasons that you and Julia decided to wrap it up, but the show seemed energized by and turbocharged in mocking the current political climate from anti-vax to denying facts and the powers that be with the Meyer Fund and the Chinese election interference. I like to think its a credit to Armando [Iannucci, the shows creator] and the previous writers, and my current writers, that we can make you root for a terrible person. Mike gives a morning press briefing about Selina's first state visit from the Israeli Prime Minister. There was a sense of, we are going to shine a comic light on this stuff, and were going to do it fast and furiously, so thats number one. TVLINE | It was announced last week that your fearless leader,Armando Iannucci, would not be returning for the shows just-ordered fourth season. Is there any world where you do a spinoff or movie or continue this character in some way? "Never mind, forget I ever said anything. Yes, maybe not specifically worrying about wheres Catherine and not specifically worrying about wheres Kent [Gary Cole], but all of that hits her. If she had asked the question, do you think would Gary have sacrificed himself? And youre right, he did look rough. Thats the wrong guy. Him seeing her just standing there, looking at whats happening, I knew, shes in on this. [Laughs] In Garys world, I always had this vision that he comes home at night and says into a recordereverything that is in the bag. I think itd be very fun to work for Dan. Quotes like, Thats the least reassuring sentence since Its OK, its just the tip! Ming Nguyen said, She showed a hint of being a good person in [the abortion episode] The Choice in Season 3. April 16, 2023. I dont know when I will respond.. In some ways, the lack of her courage to ask him almost makes it worse. Right before she hit the stage in Charlotte to accept her party's nomination for president, she tried to prepare Gary for what was about to hit him, while he tried to prepare her for the spotlight with a special lipstick. Plus, he has that weird nickname, Buttf***er.'. And that might be his own wake-up because Gary was always, always buttoned up. Lets just take no prisoners. And that sat with me over the time of when Julia had cancer. But you saw that tinge of humanity in her that made her sad. Its fun to go over memories. The idea being, there is at least one more Oscar in the next 24 years, along with the sequel to Philadelphia. It just was so stunning to hear the language in this giant ballroom at the Four Seasons. Despite becoming President, she is paying a price. After 'Veep's' series finale, Tony Hale speaks to The Hollywood Reporter about the betrayal and flash-forward reveal for his character Gary Walsh. Was the attitude in the writers room this season one of The cruelty, ignorance and hypocrisy in this world needs an equal and opposite force more than ever, or was it Its our last season, so lets adopt a scorched Earth policy, or maybe a bit of both?I go for a little bit of both, and Ill throw a third thing in. He was ready to do whatever she asked. The same-sex marriage [ban], besides being horrible, unto itself is horrible because its Catherine. But near the end of Sunday's series finale, it all came crashing down in the show's darkest moment. Selina Meyer and Gary Walsh, as dysfunctional as their relationship may be, are a beloved duo onVeep. Mandel thinks Jamies read was correct: I think she only really tried to do good if she thought it was politically expedient. Julia and Tony said those scenes were difficult to shoot, just knowing the history between the characters and that they as actors were saying goodbye to this onscreen relationship as well, even though Gary didnt realize it. I agree [about Danny Chung] youd get very sick of hearing about a tank and stuff. Happy Labor Day weekend, America. But that secret, whatever itis, trumps them all. In the heat of the moment, there probably was a realization in her mind that hes more than just a lap dog. Below, Hale takes us behind the scenes of the epic clash, teases the fallout to come, and sheds light on that Labor Day riddle. And when you sow that your entire life, you reap sadness and isolation. The takedown of Tom James is three years in the making. Oh, yes. Not to keep it Francis Ford Coppola [the director of The Godfather trilogy who also directed Apocalypse Now], but The horror, the horror. And the realization of: so alone. And it makes me laugh to no end. We should also point out that as shes kicking these people out of the office, were ending in a White House where, yes, Sue is outside, but in her inner circle, theres nobody there from the old show. But this is a woman at the end of the day that has sacrificed everythingeverythingto be in this office. DAVID MANDEL ASKS: Do you want to know what happened on Labor Day? !, Matt Walsh) was about to deliver a heartfelt eulogy about Selina to his viewers, but in the ultimate karmic-cruel joke, he had to cut his report short to cover more important breaking news: the death of Tom Hanks. Im just gonna simply say too easy. The joke of Tom Hankss death bumping news of hers is the ultimate karmic payback and a wonderful, wicked callback to the pilot. We love that dichotomy., Did Selina have good intentions when she was in office? I was weirdly very satisfied by it because nothing was going to wake Gary out of this abusive cycle but this.. I think he might view Selina with a little more empathy and compassion. She's like, 'I'm going out looking good!'". I've always assumed he was talking about finding her trash and whatever horrifying thing that was in it. In many places, workers toiled for at least 12 hours a day . "Gary and Selina cohabit a dysfunctional not-quite-romance: brutal, abusive, pathetic and unbalanced, but, at the same time, almost in spite . With Gary, the codependency and dysfunction and obsession with her is going so fast that he couldnt stop himself. MANDEL RESPONDS: I just make it a policy never to say Annas last name, he says. Andrew popped up on the street in Oslo last week and crossed in front of the group at the funeral. April 19 2015, 7:57 PM PDT. (Based on @Walldo tweet) pic.twitter.com/aZpKydSbkn, Jesse McLaren (@McJesse) March 31, 2017, ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: We all know attempts at sarcasm dont always translate well in print. I think its worse than that., Has Mandel decided what happened? What we just spoke about is obviously all of Garys story. It is horrific. Captured and kidnapped by some sort of terrorist act and put in a room with Sarin gas, like Peter Quinn. His personal pick for a crossover? If you did your job and stayed quiet, I think Ben would be harsh, but he would be relatively fair. I always catered it to Gary just treating what she was saying as an everyday request and never considering what she was really asking. And was there ever talk of making him Selinas VP in the present day, as his political career was accelerating super fast in the final season?Its funny, Ive seen both the Richard becomes her VP or somebodys VP at the convention. I think shes that kind of boss that would give you things to do, and before you even had 30 seconds to do it, shed be asking where it was, and then she would take it back from you and do it herself. We then tried to jam that into the last year, season 6, and then finally got it into season 7. Anytime someone leaves the room, as far as Im concerned, those ghosts of Christmas past will be there. So I like that thats the way he heard it. When Kent is basically bellowing at Selina and kind of losing it a little bit, the camera finds Amy there. Entertainment Weekly may receive compensation for some links to products and services on this website. Hes got huge rose-colored glasses on. And then he puts a blindfold on, plays the tape, and just starts reaching in the bag for the items. It was actually Frank Rich, our executive producer, who then jumped to, What if its Tom Hanks? I had gone back and rewatched everything again, and so, the pilot was definitely fresh in my mind. TVLINE | I feel like the first three seasons have been building to thismoment. The Hollywood Reporter is a part of Penske Media Corporation. To read what Louis-Dreyfus and Hale thought of Selinas betrayal of Gary, head over here. There was a moment when she was looking at Gary and you could see the sadness in her eyes for him, but she couldnt stop herself. "It means to lose something. Whats not in Garys bag. She just reduces him to a puddle of a man. In August 2016, Gomez cancelled the last legs of her Revival world tour to reportedly deal with complications from lupus, including anxiety, panic attacks, and depression. "There's not an authentic foundation there. But history cannot deny how many times she ran for the presidency and how badly she wanted it. ", Hale also had difficulty in keeping his emotions in check as he came to grips with the finality of the moment, both on- and off-camera. And yet, two-and-a-half decades later, Gary still showed up at Selina's funeral, looking haggard and war-torn. It would be a blast. Shes about to become president again and that is the biggest joy of Garys life. '", The scene, which illustrated the karmic punishment that had been meted out to her, served as an appropriate cautionary ending to a show steeped in corrosive cynicism and selfishness, according to Hale. Im just not sure its feasible for either of them to leave each other. And while Selina has already expressed interest in running for president again (an idea that Ben, mercifully, shot down in the Season 6 premiere), is Mandel rushing to get her back to Washington? I think then youre sort of in Bill OReilly territory. Welcome to the Quantum Realm. When we learn that Richard Splett [Sam Richardson] becomes a historic two-term president, it feels like some reward and justice in this cold, cruel world. this link is to an external site that may or may not meet accessibility guidelines. Number two, I think there was a sense of, this is the final season. Totally. MANDEL RESPONDS: He was shocked his personal pick, Amy, got no votes. In spite of everything she did, you get the sense that if that coffin opened up and she said, Get me a tea, he kind of would. And sadly, very quickly, it just became clear the most horrible thing she could conceivably do would be to the only person who ever cared about her and she ever cared about, which was Gary. Well do a big vaudeville act! But the arbitrary rule all but . I did what I was supposed to do. Gary disposed of a body for her. So the other nine, most of them were dramas. I really do love Mike becoming the Walter Cronkite, the most trusted man in America. He just keeps bouncing back to this dysfunction. ], Obviously, Kevin is just wonderful and devastating and so vulnerable and so caring. The way that I was surprised, actually, is that even though Selina would never admit it, I do feel like she subconsciously thought she needed Gary around her at all times. While the titular role in Selena: The Series will be taken on by . Kent (Gary Cole) is a full-on hippie-raising alpaca but wants to focus on his watchmaking! Because I believe he wanted to know. The betrayal and flash-forward outcome solidified Selinas monstrous transformation and yet, if you ask Hale, he has a surprising take on how it all played out. The New York Times Magazine recently posited that at the center of the acerbic satire that is "Veep" sits "the singularly awkward, brutal, tender, nonromantic romance between Selina and Gary.". As the bagman to the politician, Hales Gary Walsh is in her ear, primping her body and miming her every move always one heartbeat away from the woman he has long served. Veep Showrunner David Mandel Responds to Fans Labor Day Theories. When Gary is being taken away by the FBI, he fights it until he sees that shes aware of whats happening. She has a new Amy [in Michelle, played by Rhea Seehorn]. For this rotted-out soul, was it all worth it?This is my honest opinion. 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She had given into that much of her selfishness and narcissism. The people she banned are now there. How Marvel went big with Ant-Man and the Wasp: Quantumania. Thatd be great. Ill be vice president! almost reluctantly is one of my absolute favorite jokes, and I think in some weird way very true to the spirit of all seven seasons of the original show, a show about the vice presidency. It seemed that despite the betrayal, on some level, he will always hold a warped torch for Selina. MANDEL RESPONDS: I could see that, he says of Mike as an ineffective but well-liked high school teacher. How many takes did you get to nail Gary and Selinas final scenes, first their goodbye and then their final glance once the FBI comes? What Selina did was the biggest gift to Gary, because thats the only thing that would have broken the cycle for him, Hale now tells The Hollywood Reporter. "I have this Forrest Gump-ian way of touching something and it becomes a hit!" I dont have the secret answer of what Labor Day was, I just liked the idea of a lot of clues that kept changing what you thought about it. Chung asks Jonah to be his running mate, and he accepts. Then of course, like all bullies because she is a bully the best defense is a good offense. But now thats its coming back a second time, its this realization of, its almost like, We tried. But what went through her head was, We had tried earlier in the day off the Muslim math thing. says the actress. The gut-punch of a betrayal played out in the present-day ending of Sundays series finale, which then jumped ahead 24 years to former President Meyers funeral. We had this really nice moment after the screening, just kind of catching up and a little bit of chit-chatting. I think in some ways she found herself a sort of Dan-esque guy. Weve been gone a year, and were back, and were not taking any prisoners. But I kinda like the idea of finding out more, so well see what happens., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS/MANDEL RESPONDS: We read him a list of popular theories. The Federal Labor Day Holiday Is Created. At some point or another, I think I whispered that she won. "It was like you've got a 10,000-piece puzzle and it's that one last tiny piece and it fits in perfectly. And in some ways, perhaps even some of the postpartum depression was ultimately all really connected to Selina To me, the day they walked out of that convention, in the cab to the airport, she probably surprised Marjorie by laughing at something. I think that would be important to her., ANALYZING THE ANSWERS: The top vote getter was Jonah, with Dan as the runner-up (I would need to work for someone who has a soul, Minh wrote of the latter). Whose future outcome amused you the most? You dont ever really get to see Gary angry, but Tony is channeling sort of a little bit of a disgust, if you will. I think even when shes nice, theres usually ulterior motives or things that will get her to throw it away in a second., And as for the assessment of Selinas sexual prowess: I think she would take a lot of pride in knowing that people think shes good in bed, he says. "I have this Forrest Gump-ian way of touching something and it becomes a hit!" Sex toy covered in shit. Both Labor Day and May Day, the two worker holidays, grew out of violent clashes between labor and police in the American Midwest.What is known as the Haymarket Riot (or . And it really plays with your emotions, because you start to realize, But I was clapping earlier, but now Im sad that shes doing this to Gary. And that is the conundrum of her, and I love that it puts the viewer in knots in a really hopefully good way. How did you get her to return? Why would she want to be separated from me? So obviously the favor was, Do you want a coffee? Because thats always been the favor. 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