Goodnight. mamamoo has been giving neck to neck competition to redvelvet but kpop fans always considered redvelvet above them because redvelvet is a sm group but now its time to accept the truth.. Mamamoo is easily gonna out live redvelvet, mamamoo members have resigned and will continue for long meanwhile redvelvet is pretty much done after irene scandal and no news of members re-signing because they . This brings us now to the true reason for this article. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Hwasa in 2015 said the n word in a show where she was given the lyrics but being a non English speaker she clearly didn't know what she was saying. Have they done offensive and hurtful things in the past? Mamamoo is not the most problematic group ever I'm a fairly new Mamamoo fan and I was hearing a lot about them being super problematic towards black people (so being black) I decided to some research to find out. kpop groups; soloists; socials and info; Back; kpop groups. Above all, however, Mamamoo is a power-vocal group and strongly celebrated for it, even winning Favorite Vocal Artist at both the 2018 and 2019 MAMAs. Im getting upset the more I think about it lol but really its just a lot of misconceptions; sometimes culturally and linguistically, that Americans like to hold a grudge against. Mamamoo are good, genuine people. The point is to provide information about things which could be perceived as offensive so that fans can decide for themselves whether or not they feel comfortable continuing to support the idols. Ive said before that my intent is to provide information, and that should include context and possible explanations, and Im sorry it didnt. I actually really appreciate people messaging me about stuff and talking it through with me, especially because I actually really dislike conflict (makes me wonder why I started this blog really haha). Im honestly not trying to tell people that everybody on that list is a problematic asshole, as Ive said before, Heechul is one of my ultimate biases and I dont think hes a problematic asshole. During their concert on Friday in Seoul, Mamamoo released a. Some of the stuff I included turned out to be something I misunderstood (for example, the gifset of Siwon) and with other things, I didnt include enough information or included misinformation. Im aware people hold stuff against suju quite a lot, especially in comparison to other problematic groups like BigBang and 2NE1, who I rarely see get criticised, but that doesnt counteract the fact that suju have messed up before (because theyre human beings). if he just said that he wasshocked because he thought they were gay/trans, then its iffy. They apologized. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Its not good when people exaggerate stuff (like they did with Siwon) but its good to keep discussions going on offensive things in kpop, 3) Thank you for the fanaccounts/links about the Siwon thing (Ill add them to the list), thats the kind of thing I appreciate being told because I am not omniscient and I dont know everything (Also I think I already had one of those on there?). 1. Contents 1 History 1.1 Pre-debut 1.2 2014: Debut with Hello, and Piano Man 1.3 2015: Pink Funky 1.4 2016: Melting, MOOSICAL and Memory 1.5 2017: MOOSICAL Curtain Call and Purple Im not Korean and I dont live in Korea so Im not comfortable talking about Korean social norms or anything like that, but colorism and homophobia are still bad and damaging things. Theyre one of my favorite groups and its kind of annoying to see people say that Im not a fan just because I made the post. ", Hey remember dressing up in blackface with the rest of Mamamoo #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/3AqtVlig1n, what we feeling today -er or -a? They wont know the nuances of why what they did is offensive to us and thats why we tell them. I feel like my SuJu MP wasnt anywhere near as thorough as the exo one because I have exams at the moment so I was unable to spend as much time on it, so Id really appreciate it if people sent me anything they think I missed. A lot seem to be taken out of context and exaggerated. It's incredibly frustrating dealing with these kinds of people. From my own judgement, the members seem like good, genuine people. Each controversy mamamoo has had is different from the next, yet people will hold a grudge and use any excuse to keep hating them. We are one of the worlds fastest growing Probation Faker. If a celebrity said something homophobic 5 years ago but is now a huge activist in the lgbtq+ community, its likely that they were just ignorant and have learned since. Thank you very much for the information!! my bias is varied between moonbyul and solar Hip is one of my most played songs ever You must log in or register to reply here. Yes, we're all people, but idols are scrutinized for their every word and action, even much more so than non-celebrities). So for antis to use that insecurity and exploit it daily, calling her everything from E.T. to a 'smelly homeless person' to having the figure of a brick, says everything about themselves and nothing about her. I didnt mean for this to spiral into an argument at all and I didnt post the post with malicious intent, though I know the intent doesnt matter all that much and that I did make mistakes. Again I apologise for any of the harm I have caused with this blog, it was definitely unintentional, but thats no excuse. Wore a headscarf in a similar way to a hijab in, When a male fan said Saranghae (I love you) to him, he responded by going, Made the picture of Yesung in blackface his, Def Conn was talking about a trade he did with an African American regarding some Micheal Jordan shoes in which Kyuhyun retorted, Said that Kais defining feature was that his, Then proceeded to say Taos face color is dark because its green at 23:11 of the same, Assigned gummy bears to Exo-K members and, In the same interview, Kai sort of called him out on his colorism/shadism and Chanyeol said , Used a caricature app to make the Exo members and created, When Xiumin chose him as first place after being asked which exo member hed date if he were a girl, he saidIt feels pretty good to be in first place, but it is first place from the viewpoint of a male but then said a few seconds laterThis first place feels a little its a good thing! I will definitely admit that it was very sloppy and not well researched. Only four hours after the incident occurred, both Mamamoo and their company RBW wrote out an apology in both Korean and English and posted it online. It's just crazy how haters can twist every single thing. ", And if anybody wants to get brave about their past mistakes, heres a link with receipts and explanations. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The last thing repeatedly referenced against Hwasa is the fact that she wore a durag on Queendom during Mamamoos Good Luck performance. But in this case it was obviously red, and drawn the way a clown would wear it. i just dont love all the stuff they say/do. And it appears they still hold her accountable for it, largely owing to past instances of appropriation, such as wearing a durag. TWICE - jihyo: wore a native american costume + introduced herself as ''indian jihyo . Twitter for Android 1 Quote Tweet 8 Likes Who can reply? For those of you who might not know, Mamamoo is a four girl idol group who debuted under RBW (Rainbowbridge World) in June of 2014. #askhwasa pic.twitter.com/rqPYTIMaEL, And from there, the jokes just continued, "Biggie or Tupac?" Trust me when I say that most of the people who whine about mamamoo blackface are non-black people , I've seen a lot of black MooMoos who have forgiven them since the apology , but a lot of non black kpop fans wear it on their neck like it actually affected them in the first place , I may be the only one who thinks this way but American Kpop fans act very arrogantly when it comes to mamamoo a controversy. Goodbye! RBW then said they would work to educate themselves more on cultural sensitivity and the struggles that the black community and various other POC communities have undergone and continue to go through. ", which culture did u enjoy appropriaing the most #AskHwasapic.twitter.com/x6WYr2VeJa, Can we have a spoiler? My mom would like to know" while another asked, "Is mama Africa a good name for you? Shaun of @shaun_vids on Twitter said recently in response to another girl's hate storm against her that mirrors the exact same patterns as Mamamoo's, If someone does something worthy of criticism, and that criticism is then directly delivered thousands of times by different people (a section of whom will go much too far and be genuinely abusive), it all just merges into abuse in the perception of the one being criticised.. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), Yet we wonder why idols have to constantly showcase an "image" in order to not upset fans. Feb 22, 2023. This, combined with their Immortal Song wins, truly demonstrates just how much of an impact Mamamoo has, as their reach goes far beyond just kpop. Hwasa trolled for past racism as #AskHwasa trends, Internet asks which ethnicity she will 'offend' next. i love exo. okay so before i start this list, i just wanna clarify: i am an exo stan. They're open-minded and extremely kind people. Yes I should have looked into the Siwon stuff more, because when you watch the video, you can tell he said afterwards that he was joking. To be honest, I wish Id made the suju post more like the exo one, because the exo one included a lot of the stuff people are criticising me for leaving out of this one. We will not waver; we will not tire; we will not falter, and we will not fail. eventAction: 'render' Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? or for the life of me find it again so this is unsourced for the time being. 2) Its a good thing that people talk about suju being problematic? Yes, I should have included things such as dates. #AskHwasa pic.twitter.com/h0oPUHVyku, Some, naturally, came to Hwasa's defense, pointing out that her, the rest of Mamamoo, as well as their label Rainbowbridge World (RBW), have all apologized or at the very least provided an explanation for their actions in the past. there is nothing wrong with heechul thinking kris leaving exo was disrespectful - its his opinion, its not problematic. (Photo : Mr. Kim) Apink Chorong was a school bully, New recordings and evidence Revealed [+1,956, -53] As expected, the entertainment industry is filled with kids with such dirty personalities~~~~~. Korean girl group Mamamoo apologized Saturday after a video clip aired at their concert that featured the quartet in blackface. A lot of it is about perspective, and privilege, but also some people have lower tolerance levels than other people. A subreddit for the four member kpop group, MAMAMOO! }); But what appears to be the root of people's unforgiving nature where Hwasa is concerned is that despite past apologies and promises to do better, the idol has continued to make mistakes in the form of cultural appropriation. One of the latest developments in recent times, that is currently drawing attention on online communities such as Nate/Pann and Twitter is the promotional period of K-Pop groups/soloists. But I wanted to post this just to show that colorism in VIXX is a major problem, it has been happening since debut and has continued up til now, is something that has majorly affected Hakyeon (and is not just "a fun inside joke") and is something that every single other member is guilty of. ; _____; aaaa. Because of mistakes that they've made out of ignorance, mistakes that they've apologized for. And it manifested almost solely around Hwasa who since the very beginning has received the bulk of the hate. The MAMAMOO Introduction Guide of 2022 (Part 1: Members) MOO YT 40K views 7 months ago Is Duolingo Really a Good Way to Study Japanese? I'm pretty sure that a lot of people have heard of the blackface scandal. As the n-word is decidedly not of Asian-country origins it would make sense that she would not know the meaning of a English word that she is quickly seeing and then singing in a song, as it is a word which takes most, if not all, of its derogatory meaning from American context. I suffer from lots of different mental health problems (I dont want to go too into detail but I have ADHD and also struggle with BPD, bipolar + other issues) and this blog really does not help. I was around during Queendom for the durag situation but I don't see that a large issue as one of loves Rihanna wearing them and was selling them and promoting them to all races. eventAction: 'load' Ive seen a lot of people (and even previously been them sometimes) throwing around the Siwon thing to say hes wildly homophobic, for example, when it turned out to be heavily unreliable and probably false. I recently saw their variety show where they traveled to Busan and talked a bit about the past and Moonbyul said something that really squeezed my heart (paraphrasing): "We're human. hitType: 'event', Its kinda iffy, and as a trans & queer person it definitely rubs me the wrong way :-//. It took years to unlearn what was taught to me, become more informed, and develop my own beliefs. Her wig: Now I can understand how it can be seen as cultural appropriation. if you want to complain about me making this or ask me why i did, please read this first, honestly i will not respond to anyone who has not read this first. Heres the thing- you can not forgive them. I hear people say that she added it in to a song that didn't have it on purpose but that version is on Melon. 1) I made this post because Ive seen people actively asking about what things suju have done and whether we have a masterpost, this wasnt supposed to be a resource for people to use to justify their hate for suju, however if a person does hate suju because of things members have said/done that is up to them. I really dislike fat girls. eventCategory: event.slot.getSlotElementId(), it is also very likely the kangin/n thing was scripted, considering n hung out with suju members shortly after and neither n nor kangin nor their companies were asked about it EVEN ONCE and calling someonetrash in a magazine or bts video is a big deal. Its much appreciated :-), Im KOREAN TOO, and shes lying, i will post a video with the REAL ONE and gonna call you out too.-. Others were soon reminding Hwasa once again of her past mistakes, including wearing blackface along with the rest of Mamamoo in a performance where they were parodying Bruno Mars. Kpop music (as all music) is rightfully and obviously for everyone but i'm kinda surprised how big of a lesbian following kpop groups like mamamoo and dreamcatcher have and to some extent TXT, with other groups it doesnt seem to be that way. let gads_event; Posts: 310. Mamamoo isn't problematic. Mamamoo themselves wrote: We were extremely ignorant of blackface and did not understand the implications of our actions. True, the haters just don't know them so they judge easily. Its probably my fault for not communicating that clearly enough though. Not speaking Korean and being confused about whats true and what isnt? MAMAMOO's Hwasa is a cast member in the MBS reality show I live Alone (literal translation). Like who is the next ethnicity youre going to offend? No it doesnt excuse what theyve said, but its likely that they have changed, which is something everybody does and it should be embraced. offensive/misogynistic comments to his Cyworld account, Kai was in charge of skin color in the group, my noona is a little on the tanned side, no wonder why you guys acted like you were so close with each other, I thought the lights were not entering over there, said that he has Kai saved as Blackie in his phone contacts, in a pre-debut video with a hard -er at the end, how can you say something that doesnt even make sense?, Chanyeol asked Kai if he wanted to lighten his skin, Dont misunderstand us. I heard that this picture would drive people with OCD crazy.. We're celebrities too but we're human first.". 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